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OT: GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel: Good or Bad.....

Postby XC800SP » October 17th, 2005, 6:42 am

It costs less to refine but consumer demand is where the price gouging comes into play. Summer travelers tanking up their gas jobs heading out on vacation increases demand for gas. Now comes fall. Home heating oil and diesel for all the big rigs that never shut off thier motors because they like to have heat in thier trucks when they sleep increases consumption. WHatever sells more in any given month is what they produce more of. My 10 mpg 318 Dodge is not to hard to live with right now. (10 mpg towing the trailer at 75 mph)
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OT: GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel: Good or Bad.....

Postby XC800SP » October 17th, 2005, 6:53 am

Also, the extra 5 to 6 MPG that you get over a gas motor compaired to the extra charge for the diesel option and the difference you pay for diesel compaired to gas, your really not saving any money going to a diesel.

Diesel option on a Dodge is around $ 4000.00
You take the total gallons used for a 500 mile trip at 15 mpg is 33.3 gallons
33.3 x 3.00 per gallon = $100.00

gas motor 500 mile trip at 10 mpg is 50 gallons
50 x $2.35 per gallon = $117.00

$17 dollars more to run Gas than diesel. How many miles will you have to drive before you break even with the $4,000.00 You paid extra for the diesel option ?

I've done alot of thinking on getting a diesel truck but just cannot justify spending the extra money for the diesel when I really don't need it. I'd love to have one, but its just not worth it. Just my 2 cents
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OT: GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel: Good or Bad.....

Postby mbenoy119 » October 17th, 2005, 7:05 am

Depends on what kind of trailer you are pulling. I wouldn't even think about trying to pull my trailer with anything besides a diesel. We used to pull our old race trailer with a 94 Chev 1-ton with a 454 in it and it was STILL a turd and got around 6 MPG. I can pull my 28 foot race car trailer, loaded to the max of 8600lbs, get 14-16 mpg, and still accelerate on a freeway ramp. This price desparity is disgraceful though! I feel bad for the truck drivers out there who are trying to make a living and just getting RAPED for fuel right now. It's pretty sad
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OT: GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel: Good or Bad.....

Postby XC800SP » October 17th, 2005, 7:53 am

Don't get me wrong Mike, if you do alot of towing it will pay off, eventually. But for your average guy like myself that tows a trailer only 4% of the time, its just not worth it. I also own a 35 foot Prowler travel trailer. Towed it up to the property and got around 9 mpg. Its a huge trailer, around 8000lbs and the 318 did a good job. I don't tow it all the time and what I got in the truck does the job when I need it to. Im getting 16.5 highway now. not towing anything, not bad, but not as good as the diesels are getting.
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OT: GM 6.5L Turbo Diesel: Good or Bad.....

Postby Pantera » October 20th, 2005, 6:36 am

I've been looking at the numbers too.

With my Ford F250 4x2 w/7.3L (non-turbo) I get anywhere from 17-19 mpg w/o pulling a trailer. I haven't pulled my sled trailer with it since I just got the truck about 2 months ago and it's only a 2 wheel drive so I probably won't utilize it for that. Bought it for other reasons.
However I did run out to WY to haul back a MH (motorhome) and I tipped the scale just over 22K pounds. I got 7-9 mpg over the 1K trip home, got 14-15 mpg on the way out there pulling goose neck trailer at 75-80 mph w/4.10 gears.

But with my 2001 Suburban (6.0L) only getting about 9 mpg when pulling my 4-place enclosed trailer I was hoping a diesel powered Suburban (6.5L Turbo) could do the same job and get about 14-15 mpg. If it did, I would still come out slightly ahead with the diesel even though the cost of diesel fuel is $0.90 - $1.00 higher per gallon.

2001 Suburban w/6.0L Gas: $2.29/gal at 9 mpg is $0.254/mile
1998 Suburban w/6.5L Diesel: $3.29/gal at 14 mpg is .235/mile

That is assuming I can get 14 mpg pulling my trailer. That is an 'unknown' at this time. Anybody got better numbers???

Keep in mind I'm not considering buying a 'new' diesel truck where the extra cost for the motor is more obvious.

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