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Ether starting fluid

Postby stilldoo'nit » February 4th, 2005, 6:20 pm

I'm just wondering what the general opinion is on using ether to start a 2 cycle snowmobile engine. Myself I was told years ago to not use anything dry like wd-40, ether or gas line antifreeze to start a snowmobile. I belive the reason was that it flushes out lubrication and drys out ruins seals. I've noticed alot of people on here are turning to the ether can before anything else for starting stubborn sleds. Myself, ever since I saved a old squirt bottle and filled it with premix I've never had starting problems.

So what do you guys think, I don't want anyone to think I'm condemning those who use ether, I just think that if it's a bad move we all should know for sure before damage gets done. Pete.
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Postby AHood » February 4th, 2005, 7:29 pm

they say that ether is bad because i have heard that it can ignite in the lower end and blow out the seals. as far as stripping lubrication i doubt thats an issue seen as how many foolish people have said they rum 100:1 premix thats hardly any lube anyway. I use it some times when i dont have the premix squirt can handy and have never had problems.
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Postby Bug Eyed » February 4th, 2005, 8:45 pm

I use it when the sled wont start from gas, and I don't want to run into flooding problems. Only one shot though, I have heard it cleans the lube off the cylinder walls if you run it for too long on ether and you will burn 'er down. I think it burns hotter than gas too, but I cannot confirm that. I'll set my left hand on fire with gas and my right with ether and tell you which one hurts more.
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Postby snake321 » February 5th, 2005, 12:45 am

either never hurt anything of mine. I start my F350 with it every day for a couple of years too..
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Postby 74accheetah » February 5th, 2005, 1:44 am

I'm a squirt bottle guy. When our boyz want to go riding and it's time to start the Cheetah, they'll hear me yell...."Where's the spritzer bottle!!??"

Problem with most of the ones I usually use is the pumper always likes to freeze up :(

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Postby snake321 » February 5th, 2005, 1:46 am

get one of those bicycle rider water bottles with the little tube, the squeeze kind..
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Postby Bug Eyed » February 5th, 2005, 2:50 am

OK the hand I soaked in gas hurt a lot more when I lit it on fire because I could not put it out and it burned for half a minute. The ether soaked hand only burned for a few seconds, then I took a big snort out of the can so I would pass out because my hands were burnt to a crisp and I was in horrible pain. The ER is gona love this story (it hurts to type, I'm outa here!)
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Postby sledwrench » February 5th, 2005, 4:09 am

Ether works just fine when used as a last resort. Yes, problems arise from USER error. Lots of our equipment has ether systems built in, with a switch on the dash. In a 2 stroke, it can lead to bad situations, but it CAN be used. You only need a short blast in the carb, NOT the airbox. I've even blown an airbox across the room from a backfire. I use it more for quick seal checks, which isn't the safest, but it works. Chances are, if you need ether, something else isn't working the way it should
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Postby snake321 » February 5th, 2005, 4:17 am

[quote]OK the hand I soaked in gas hurt a lot more when I lit it on fire because I could not put it out and it burned for half a minute. The ether soaked hand only burned for a few seconds, then I took a big snort out of the can so I would pass out because my hands were burnt to a crisp and I was in horrible pain. The ER is gona love this story (it hurts to type, I'm outa here!)[/quote]

hahahahha, now, THAT'S some funny s h i t...
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Postby gpx433 » February 5th, 2005, 5:11 am

i always use a old yellow plastic plochmans mustard bottle mixed at like 20 to 1 to prime my sled.no fires or accidents yet!.
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